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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disk has been found and is now in

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network and kgra the global radio

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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undisclosed location but it is beautiful

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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it's thursday

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that's right tonight is another fader

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night with open lines all night long

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and open up the phone lines at the

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i'm going to get straight to it tonight

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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right there on twitter at j church radio

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the sandbox is hashtag f2b on twitter

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where all of you fader knots hang out

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and you can come and join the action we

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don't bite

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and any questions during the show

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tonight or any other night use the

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that'll pop up it's always live right to

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that's right let's get straight to the

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crazy news day

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because yesterday was mcdonald's

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now burger king has announced earlier

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said it will refuse approvals for any

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investment or expansion and the

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locations earlier this week as the

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the ukrainian anonymous hacker group

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then released 360

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all of this was announced today on the

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anonymous hacked several russian

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making the first major wall street bank

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invasion of ukraine goldman sachs

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business in russia was 650 million

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almost 9 in 10 britain's

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using emojis to express emotions than

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a third of those said that they would

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smartphone when they felt awkward rather

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so there you go

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forward slash did you get that

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well if congress new spending bill is

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funding to some major nasa projects that

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have been underfunded for the last few

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years notably nasa's program to develop

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a new human lunar lander and that would

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be fully funded as the budget has

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requested as will a program to develop a

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new commercial space stations in low

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earth orbit overall nasa would receive

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24.41 billion dollars for 2022 in the

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new bill which would fund the us

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government for fiscal year 2022.

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nasa's portion

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is roughly 800 million less than the

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24.8 billion that the budget requested

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from fiscal year 2021 which was only

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billion dollars let's get the show

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cracking happy birthday to today olivia

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wilde is 38. that's right tron legacy

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and also house md chuck norris today is

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82 sharon stone today is 64.

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jon hamm funny dude

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today is 51 you know star 30 rock parks

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and recreation and good omens

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boston's tom schultz one of the great

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guitar players today is 75 years old

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pearl jam bassist jeff ament today is 58

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edie brickell today is 56

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and producer rick rubin is 58 of course

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he brought us the beastie boys run dmc

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public enemy red hot chili peppers rick

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rubin today 58 and our dead guy's

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birthday today is scott mckenna

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1950 to 2019 died at the age of 68.

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scott was a drummer who played with the

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sensational alex harvey band rory

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gallagher the greg lake band the michael

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with michael schenker he recorded three

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of the great rock albums in history

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assault attack

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rock will never die the live album and

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built to destroy i have all three

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he has also lectured in applied arts at

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north glasgow college from 1996 to 2011.

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ted was voted scotland's greatest ever

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drummer and influenced many musicians

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not just drummers but other musicians

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due to his professional attitude

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incredible musicianship and mostly he

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just had an amazing personality and a

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love for music he passed away during a

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routine hernia operation on january 19

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2019

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he was just 68 years old

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happy birthday scott on this day in

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history otd 1876

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the first speech is transmitted over the

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telephone when alexander graham bell

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summons his assistant in another room by

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mr watson come here

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i want you

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that's right on this day in 1876 fader

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now this is vetted look it up

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until 2015

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it was illegal to dance in japan

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after midnight

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and that is your vader fact tonight

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long we're going to open up

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the phone lines here at the bottom of

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and right now i want to let everybody

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that not this weekend

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but next weekend i am going to be in

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i am gonna be there in scottsdale for

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the 25th anniversary of the phoenix

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lights and the showing of the

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documentary the phoenix lights

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and joining me now to talk about all of

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this is the one and only dr link tay

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good evening how are you

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uh such a joy to be with you and your

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wonderful audience and

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it's always a thrill you you are

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fabulous and uh love being here and

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letting people know that there's a lot

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more to this story than they probably

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ever heard before of the phoenix lights

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and that's one of the reasons i came

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forward after seven years of anonymity

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after thousands of people saw what i had

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been actually not only witnessing but

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documenting on 35 millimeter film which

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is the only 35 millimeter to date that

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we know of uh that's been analyzed and

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authenticated by military and

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university optical experts and um it's

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25 years later and we still do not have

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an explanation and um whatever you've

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heard out there

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there's so much word to this story and

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and that was one of the reasons i came

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forward to set the record straight and

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and what's it what's amazing uh jimmy

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that 25 years later now and when i came

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forward in 2004

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the um official and accepted uh

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explanation except for the witnesses of

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course was that the phoenix lights were

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merely military illumination players and

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um that not only myself and and

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certainly i've put a lot into this to

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get the truth out there and and the fact

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that there is so much more to this story

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um but so many other wonderful people

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credible people have come forward even

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our former governor

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and uh kurt russell was was actually

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approaching

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uh sky harbor international airport and

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saw the same thing that i was filming at

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the same time during the mass sighting

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so there's there's a lot to this story

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and he came forward a couple years ago

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as well and now

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it's being hailed as the most witnessed

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most documented most important mass

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anomalous sighting in modern history if

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not all of history

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this is a really big deal it this is the

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25th anniversary and the event every

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year there in phoenix is a big deal this

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time around it's the 25th anniversary

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and uh it's going to take place it's

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from 1 to 5 p.m

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at uh

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at the scottsdale harkins shea 14 cinema

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on on shea boulevard and scottsdale road

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right there in the corner um who else is

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uh going to be hanging out with us

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it i have to tell you it is every year

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since the premiere of the

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documentary one of our dozen

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international film festival awards we're

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so proud of that because it's a real

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grassroots effort and it's a gentle

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overview of um what happened here and

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the facts and how it affected people and

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uh from 2005 on not only have we been

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sold out every year but i've really

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tried to keep it alive and

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host organize and host

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this community it really is one of the

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only

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mainstream events of its kind because we

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show the documentary on the big silver

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screen which is very exciting and then

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we have speakers and every year we have

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such wonderful speakers this year we're

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going to have the um navajo rangers and

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actually they they are law

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law enforcement studying these phenomena

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and there's so much going on on the

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navajo range and they talk about that

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and in fact they had a big sighting the

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day before hours which they're very open

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i mean there's a whole whole story about

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the native cultures and indigenous

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cultures worldwide really accepting that

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there are other intelligences out there

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and even the hopi right here in arizona

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have protocols to invite them in and

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over the the navajo range i mean they're

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so used to it that the day before our

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mass sighting on march 13th 1997

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they had these orbs these giant orbs

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going around in circles um for hours and

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they brought out their lawn chairs and

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they're watching them and they thought

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it would be a big deal until of course

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it was eclipsed the next day by the mass

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sighting so they're going to be talking

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about that we also are going to have um

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new witnesses um that were right

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underneath the craft that are going to

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be telling their stories we also have

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mufon we like to let people know about

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mutual ufo network and uh the the

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chapter we have here is the gold

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standard um stacy wright is going to be

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telling the audience about that because

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most of the audience they're just people

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that are curious or who have seen it and

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they they don't know where to go to

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really um

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grow and learn and that's one of the

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other reasons i came forward is to let

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people know they're not alone in this

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that there's a place to go each year

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that we can talk about the phoenix

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lights we also have um brian bender who

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is a politico for the first time we're

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going to get into that um he wrote a

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wonderful article about um symington

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coming forward uh and he might even show

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up we we hope um

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wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

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wait wait wait fife is going to show up

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we don't know brian's trying to breathe

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he did a wonderful article for for

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politico so we'll see see if that if

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that happens we're keeping our fingers

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crossed but um you know we've come such

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a long way and he's going to talk about

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that i mean we

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when in 97 and for years after that's

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why i stayed anonymous there's so much

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ridicule and stickering and discrediting

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um now finally uh with the new york

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times article in 2017 and and since

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we've had um

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a bit of a disclosure as you know from

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the government and certainly navy pilots

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and so forth so um he's going to be

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talking about that and then we're we're

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really excited because we also um are

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going to be having some of the uh cast

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members speak and francis barwood the

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phoenix councilwoman vice mayor is going

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to give um we're going to do a little uh

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zoom with her and uh and she's going to

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stick around for the q a and also for

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the q a um that we have alice cooper

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rock star alice cooper who actually saw

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the phoenix lights mass sighting and

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also a subsequent sighting and he's

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going to be

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doing a q a with us as well uh remotely

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so we're really really excited it's

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gonna be amazing uh time people come at

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strangers jimmy and leave connected

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there's something about watching the

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documentary and and becoming open uh

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open behind open heart to to what

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they're hearing and the possibilities

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the wondrous possibilities uh especially

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about the phoenix slates and and then

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having the speakers um and we also have

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uh charles guyette who who actually um

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was one of the radio other radio local

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radio uh hosts here who is very open to

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um to talking about this topic which we

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were very very appreciative of so we

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have a host of of uh wonderful speakers

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and certainly the q a where we get down

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to it i mean they get into the

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nitty-gritty of um you know really

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talking about the topic and and the

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audience opens up so it's a fun fun

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experience for everybody and and also

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they learn the the new data because uh

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most people don't realize that um most

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people think from the media that it was

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one or two events and actually um there

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were many events uh it wasn't just one

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or two events most people were outside

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between eight and ten looking up at the

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sky at the hillbop comments for anybody

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that's not familiar with the phoenix

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flights mass sighting when they saw

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gotta also caught a glimpse of one to

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eight miles wide according to peter

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davenport the national ufo reporting

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center director um from all his data he

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actually uh concluded that one of these

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phenomena whether it was these orbs that

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people were seeing these giant orbs that

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seemed to be attached to something in v

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or delta or triangle or boomerang arrays

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or actual craft and that's the other

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00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,200
thing there were ten different craft

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there there were a 12-year meticulous

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study of the data if people go to the

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phoenix lights network website and go on

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the photo page they can see my 35

442
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millimeter photograph collection and the

443
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gap page geospatial animation project

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whether it was one craft that could

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morph into looking different with a

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perspective from where the person was

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standing or an actual parade which is

448
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ultimately what was decided because

449
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there were multiple things happening

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these orb arrays as well as these

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massive silent

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rooftop crafts going very slow or taking

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off at blink speed the the technology

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itself was incredible

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they were also seen uh it started about

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3 p.m in the afternoon 5 30 um in

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new mexico there were david morgan

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seeing the same phenomena seven o'clock

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hour and on in california and actually

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the 10 11 o'clock hour

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there were two commercial airline pilots

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that reported one of these massive craft

463
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covering las vegas and the sightings

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continued all the way until the next

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morning at 5 30 when a boeing crew was

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coming into sky harbor international

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airport and saw one of these massive

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craft covering their tarmac and you know

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the only explanation they ever came up

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with uh jimmy and this was a month after

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a usa today article came out on june

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18th and opened our sighting to

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international scrutiny we were deluged

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by media and we didn't have social media

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at the time uh but but overnight i mean

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the next morning all the national

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warning shows and dan rather and peter

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jennings were talking about it and we

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were deluged by media that once they

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talked to the witnesses their

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descriptions were so detailed and so

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heartfelt that they too were asking why

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isn't there an explanation why isn't

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there an investigation and that very

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morning the next morning that's when our

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former governor five simonson called an

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unscheduled press conference for that

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afternoon and marched out one of his

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aids with a giant alien head costume and

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made a mockery of it um which was very

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disconcerting for for the people that

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did see something that was two and three

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malls wide but that kind of put a lid on

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it and then suddenly a month later we

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get an announcement and there's a lot

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more to this story um but we get an

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announcement that uh there were flares

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that the maryland air national guard was

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in town sending off military

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illumination flares well that was very

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interesting to me personally because i

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was taking pictures for two months

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before of the same exact phenomena

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head-on turning into a v-shape

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against the wind according to air

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traffic controllers that i spoke with

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the next morning

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and

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they weren't there in january so who did

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that it was a safe exact thing

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and also in my 95 pictures of a very

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close sighting to our home the same

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exact phenomena are there as well i

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always say the data speaks for itself

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you know if i can be a credible voice so

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people actually look at the data then

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i've done my job so i welcome people to

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go to the phoenix lights network and and

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take a a look at the data and also just

520
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as a little aside

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three years after the mass sighting and

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most people do not know this unless they

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00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,760
were in the phoenix area uh former

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vice mayor um

525
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,240
francis barwood of phoenix actually was

526
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running for secretary of state to get

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answers for the lights over phoenix and

528
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:58,720
asking for a reenactment which was

529
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,760
brilliant okay i'm a healthy skeptic

530
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:04,559
show me right i mean shame on them for

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uh going over a rooftop level of uh

532
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right over people's heads and then

533
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,440
denying it for so long but hey if it's

534
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,919
military show me three air national

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00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,120
guards i don't know if you know this

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00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,360
jimmy three air national guards came

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into town right before the third

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anniversary to show everyone they had a

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00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,880
public announcement they're showing

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everyone the phoenix sites

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00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,000
talk about a joke if you go to the news

542
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:29,840
page on the phoenix sites network

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00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:37,269
you will scroll down see a z family

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00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:40,159
report tv report of exactly what they

545
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,159
did they tried to make a triangle it was

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upside down it fell apart immediately

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and i do smoke trails just what flares

548
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:49,120
do and that really put a nail in that

549
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,559
coffin i mean they

550
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,640
had their shot and they blew it and to

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00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:54,480
date the phoenix lights have never been

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00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,080
recreated or explained 25 years later

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00:27:01,669 --> 00:26:59,600
and again there's so much more to this

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00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,679
story so i hope people will take a look

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00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,039
at the website it's packed with

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00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,000
information to explore and consider i'm

557
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,600
excited to finally uh you know get out

558
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,799
of the house

559
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,360
and go and do something like this and i

560
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,360
get to hang out with you and everybody

561
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:17,679
else there in phoenix so

562
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,279
i invite everybody statewide in arizona

563
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:23,919
come and hang out with all of us i'll be

564
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,799
there dr lin is going to be there uh

565
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,880
so many guests there is also going to be

566
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,480
a q a

567
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,279
after the film and and it's right there

568
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:35,600
it's on the corner of scottsdale and

569
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:38,720
shea and it's from 1 to 5 p.m

570
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:41,760
uh march 20th sunday march 20th it is

571
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,640
going to be great i wanted to ask you

572
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,720
this uh really quick

573
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:49,679
um uh the media

574
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,440
um has has always uh you know they've

575
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:55,440
they tried to be a friend of yours in

576
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,240
phoenix covering this story and they do

577
00:28:02,950 --> 00:27:59,600
it every year and they cover the

578
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:02,960
anniversary um how do you feel now with

579
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:05,200
the media the way that

580
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,840
finally this ufo uap issue

581
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:11,520
seems to

582
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:15,279
be more serious now do you feel that in

583
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,279
phoenix do you feel that the media is

584
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:19,760
taking this more seriously

585
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,640
absolutely absolutely jimmy what that's

586
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,760
one of the main reasons i stayed

587
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,679
anonymous i mean it was scary to come

588
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,640
forward at the time um even francis

589
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,960
barwood i mean she innocently asked for

590
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,279
an investigation in a may

591
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:35,440
council meeting and she was plastered by

592
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,799
the media i mean they made jokes you

593
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:38,640
know little jokes in the paper and and

594
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:42,080
so forth we have come a long long way

595
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,840
and you know the other the other thing

596
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,480
is when i did come forward in 2004 after

597
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:48,240
much soul searching i did not want to

598
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,520
come forward but i i pushed my entire

599
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:53,919
accomplished medical career aside to try

600
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,520
to find a logical source of meaning for

601
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,960
what i had witnessed and photographed i

602
00:29:02,789 --> 00:28:59,440
have yet to find it 25 years later but i

603
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,799
ended up with a 750 page journal every

604
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:04,799
day i mean i really pushed everything

605
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,440
aside to to try to really gather the

606
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:09,440
most credible data and i squeezed it

607
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,640
down to the best the most credible info

608
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:14,159
that i had found and i continued

609
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,960
documenting these phenomena and finally

610
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,000
shared it

611
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,520
i actually went back to work at the

612
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:21,360
arizona heart institute

613
00:29:25,190 --> 00:29:23,840
i was chief clinical consultant of the

614
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,200
wellness and imaging center there the

615
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,279
heart test and behind closed doors

616
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:29,520
nobody knew what i was doing i would

617
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,720
start paring down that book um to 230

618
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,240
pages and when i finally did come

619
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,320
forward i could not believe all the

620
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,960
doctors and nurses had pulled me aside

621
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:41,120
to tell me their stories and people that

622
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,880
actually read i know when somebody reads

623
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,960
the book because there is so much data

624
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,200
in there it's so fascinating not only

625
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,159
the the technology itself which was

626
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:52,720
riveting i mean it just beyond anything

627
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:55,200
we've ever seen in 25 years but how it

628
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,080
affected people at a

629
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,039
very deep soul level in real time and in

630
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,039
long term if you remember the movie

631
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,360
independence day was really popular at

632
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,840
the time and we're so inundated we go

633
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,600
into this in the documentary with fear

634
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,120
fear fear and threat through a threat

635
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,279
from media and hollywood that how are

636
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,960
you supposed to react when you see

637
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,320
something that you're being primed to

638
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,480
fear and children would jump up and down

639
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:19,760
and up and down independence day

640
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:22,960
independence day but as it came closer a

641
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,880
calmness came over everyone

642
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,799
connectedness to the phenomena that they

643
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,240
wanted to run after it or have their

644
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,399
parents get in the car and chase it in

645
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,799
real time people there is not one and

646
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,399
that's really important for me to say

647
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,480
now one credible report

648
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:39,039
to date of harm threat or abduction

649
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,720
associated with the phoenix slate's

650
00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,720
anomalies can't speak for other things

651
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,559
but i can about the phoenix sites if

652
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:46,640
anything it was just the reverse that

653
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,679
people were in awe and wonder and um

654
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,679
just joyous i saw people tell me that

655
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,440
they feel blessed and to answer your

656
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,399
question when i came forward in 2004 as

657
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,640
i mentioned earlier the the

658
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:00,799
accepted except for the witnesses an

659
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:03,840
official explanation was military flares

660
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,000
and i had done health tips in

661
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:09,279
philadelphia in 76 with jessica savage i

662
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,480
don't know if you remember that name she

663
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,320
was my mentor at the time and a

664
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:13,840
syndication grew from that that was

665
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:16,720
showing in phoenix at cbs and then i did

666
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,679
health tips at nbc here in the early 80s

667
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,960
well when i was starting out in the

668
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,799
early 80s doing that other people were

669
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,000
starting out

670
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:26,240
which in 2004

671
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:29,200
they now were the head of the

672
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:31,600
news department at abc

673
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,519
or the head of production at fox and the

674
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:37,600
village labs which was a clearing house

675
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,640
here

676
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,960
for a lot of the reports used to call

677
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,640
the person that had the pictures because

678
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,399
i let them out gratis i just wanted

679
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,120
people to see what we saw uh dr x so

680
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,600
when i did come forward in 2004

681
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,320
a lot of the people knew who i was i was

682
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,640
they said your dr x will come on over

683
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,799
and they have been so kind and so

684
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,399
welcoming and they knew i wouldn't come

685
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:00,960
forward unless i did my homework unless

686
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:03,200
i knew that what i was sharing i'm not

687
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,039
saying what they were i don't know who's

688
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,919
behind it i all i know is that they were

689
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:09,760
and that it's time we get this topic out

690
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,159
in the open and we address it we accept

691
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,000
it and we study it so we can move

692
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:15,840
forward and find out who's driving these

693
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,159
things as well as move forward

694
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:20,880
in our own evolution and and the news

695
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,240
people have so embraced that they really

696
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,240
knew that i would not come forward

697
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,159
unless it was important and they have

698
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,080
been so kind and that's why we're

699
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,559
celebrating this year at the event the

700
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,799
uh witnesses themselves and also the

701
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:36,720
media because there's so many media that

702
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,480
are now retiring as i have um and and

703
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,240
they have been so kind and they really

704
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,399
it's it's full circle i mean they don't

705
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,159
laugh they don't snicker they take it

706
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:48,640
you know seriously and and also i mean

707
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,880
there are flares being sent out there

708
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,799
are glimpse of people mistake i mean

709
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,000
there's so many things that people

710
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,080
mistake now in the sky and drones and so

711
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,399
forth we deal with that we we compare

712
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,399
them to the true unknown so people can

713
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,559
learn what the real phoenix flights were

714
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,159
all about and that's one of the things

715
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,760
that we do at the event as well so i'm

716
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,440
so happy that you're going to be there

717
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,200
and invite everybody and by the way it's

718
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,480
it's been sold out every year since 2005

719
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,159
and this year they have reserve seats so

720
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:16,960
i really uh recommend people to to go to

721
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,519
the um phoenix lights network website

722
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:21,200
you there's a link there that goes right

723
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,159
to the um to the tickets as well as

724
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,000
phoenix slate's network on facebook if

725
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,080
you'd like to go there uh there's a link

726
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,480
there as well um and and we welcome

727
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:32,640
everyone and it's just such a fun fun

728
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,480
time and i'm also giving a commemorative

729
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:36,080
gift out this year

730
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,320
there yet lynn i will see you in 10 days

731
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,559
it's gonna be so much fun thank you so

732
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,120
much and you've got a busy week in front

733
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,519
of you and i'll see you on sunday march

734
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,919
20th right there in scottsdale arizona

735
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:52,399
for the 25th anniversary of the phoenix

736
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,360
lights dr lynn kate thank you lin behave

737
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,600
and be well and be safe

738
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,080
you too keep looking up that's right

739
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:02,240
thank you so much dr lincoln i'm going

740
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,120
to be there march 20th right there in

741
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,440
phoenix this is fade to black i'm your

742
00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:09,359
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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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all right welcome back bay to black i am

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your host jimmy church it is

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thursday it is fader night with open

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lines all night long i want to thank dr

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lin katai

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for coming in tonight i will be in

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phoenix

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march 20th for the 20th anniversary of

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the phoenix lights and the showing of

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the documentary i'll be there for the q

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a

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[Music]

842
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yeah

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gonna hang out come in come and do that

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with us

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it's at uh the scottsdale harkins shea

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14

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cinema right there on shea and

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scottsdale road right there on the

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corner so i'll see everybody out there

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it is from 1 2 5

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p.m

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on sunday march 20. all right it's

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thursday night it is fader nights open

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lines all night long seven four seven

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two two eight two zero five one seven

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four seven two two eight two zero five

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one

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and uh i'm your host jimmy church this

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is fade to black

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and uh this is my favorite night of the

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week uh there's no question about it

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and uh i get to hang out with all of you

863
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a little programming note

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um

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uh uh

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christina gomez and i will be

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with everybody tomorrow live

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and uh

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uh we couldn't do the show today

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um

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there's a conspiracy there there's a

872
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conspiracy but uh yeah we're coming at

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you tomorrow uh covering ufo hot spots

874
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it's going to be a great show it's

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always great with christina so i'll see

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everybody uh there tomorrow

877
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the lines are officially open and uh

878
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let's see who's up first hi you're live

879
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you're live

880
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oh wait a minute hold on a second

881
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my name is k

882
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your name is is

883
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from the bronx new york

884
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okay yes

885
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um

886
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i'm calling for the box new york

887
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um

888
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i'm 53 years old

889
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and uh i want to tell you my story

890
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we're live on the air right now okay so

891
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uh

892
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i was i was on the beach hanging out

893
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with my friends on the boardwalk

894
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and rockaway

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new york

896
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and

897
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i saw the ufo

898
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and uh

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low pesky it was like it was

900
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four in there and then um

901
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my friends that were with me they said

902
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that night

903
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i went to foot and i i i

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i went i called uh

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nasa nasa before i went to bed

906
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and they said uh they didn't get a

907
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report of the ufo

908
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exciting

909
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and then they went to bed

910
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so like 11 or something and i got up at

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12 15 right to go use the bathroom

912
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and then as i was coming out of the

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bathroom

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the gray alien

915
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came in my house

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and then

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and i had a conversation with him

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and uh

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do you want to

920
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be my leader

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now

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and then you ask me that

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do you want to meet my leader

924
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and then i asked them

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where are you from

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and then you should

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please

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really see like a lemon

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and then ask them

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why are you here

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what he said

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the harvest

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to

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how long was he there

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without thinking anything

936
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what did you hand to him

937
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a candy bar a husky are you handy

938
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you handed it you handed the gray alien

939
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a hershey bar

940
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all right anything whatever i found

941
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these in my refrigerator

942
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i i handed it to him he cooked it in his

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hand

944
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he looked at it

945
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and then he walked the [\h__\h] out

946
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okay out of my house yeah no uh no no

947
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foul no bad language

948
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and then

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i looked

950
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you need to be probably

951
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it was at the end of everything so he he

952
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and he walked

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out your left i lock the door

954
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and then um

955
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press the door to the right

956
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so it's like 12 15

957
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and then

958
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i guess i'm i thought i was maybe seeing

959
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a little but then

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um

961
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when i was

962
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back to bed i guess maybe you might feel

963
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bad i don't know

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[Music]

965
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because i was feeling

966
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something right from my thumbs there

967
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i've been like

968
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the aircraft

969
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and um okay kay you need to speak up

970
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i supposed to call my name kate

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say whatever

972
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and then um

973
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you're like thinking about

974
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you know

975
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and then i saw a great person come walk

976
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over to me

977
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and then i went out

978
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and everything went blank

979
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and then the next thing i remember is

980
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before i woke up was i saw

981
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the imagery

982
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okay

983
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um i can't really understand what you're

984
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:09,200
saying but here here's the did you did

985
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,589
yes i i saw a couple but let's see it's

986
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,599
not the whole story

987
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:21,760
okay well okay

988
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let's uh what what happened next as

989
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this is important i think it puts me

990
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:35,990
uh then then the images that i saw which

991
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:39,760
they showed me was the hurricanes

992
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and stuff and then

993
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the time of bomb going off

994
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,359
and then i

995
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then sent me so much i woke up

996
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:53,760
my hands were on top of my stomach

997
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:57,119
i have my like my overview

998
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and

999
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:21,829
so but okay

1000
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:25,280
okay what i want you to do is um

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uh

1002
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,040
and and and

1003
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:41,440
why does that expect this important yeah

1004
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,280
well it it

1005
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:45,440
what i'm going to suggest is

1006
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,960
um uh have a clearer phone line because

1007
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:51,200
it's very difficult to hear what you're

1008
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,240
saying

1009
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,400
and uh the rest of the audience is gonna

1010
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:56,400
struggle with this too

1011
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,599
you better have to turn my audio down

1012
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,839
say

1013
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,359
what the message

1014
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:05,440
turn the audio down

1015
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:08,960
okay i see i can't uh listen kay i can't

1016
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,160
understand

1017
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,400
uh what you're saying so just call have

1018
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,880
a clear phone line next week

1019
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,400
and uh

1020
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,160
it sounds like

1021
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,640
a very interesting experience and

1022
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:22,319
everything that you

1023
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:26,240
uh went through but uh if i can't hear

1024
00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:26,960
it

1025
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,720
and uh so if you're listening to me now

1026
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:35,280
okay have a nice clean phone line and i

1027
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,559
would love to hear the rest of the story

1028
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,000
let's see who's up next hi you're live

1029
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:41,040
on fade to black who's calling

1030
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:42,160
okay

1031
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,960
you got to be ready to go putting you on

1032
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,880
hold is this is this what kind of night

1033
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:49,200
we're going to have uh here on fade to

1034
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,480
block

1035
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,480
here we go

1036
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:54,000
all right let's see who's up next hi

1037
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,200
you're live on fade to black who's

1038
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:56,720
calling

1039
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,359
hey jimmy this is shawn

1040
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,359
hi from uh red sick astro here in baton

1041
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,680
rouge uh i'm an astrophotographer

1042
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,920
sitting out every night listening to you

1043
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,839
but i called you last week about the

1044
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:09,680
hall tree do you remember

1045
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:13,599
uh i do yes of course yeah and i have a

1046
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,160
uh i told you i had a myrtle's

1047
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,240
plantation story as well so i thought

1048
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:19,920
i'd bring you up to date on that this

1049
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,440
okay turn me down in the background

1050
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:22,960
though

1051
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,520
i'm not i don't have a radio on okay all

1052
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:27,440
right uh i'm standing out in the front

1053
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,440
yard okay so uh the myrtle

1054
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,280
the myrtles plantation in saint

1055
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:35,040
francisville louisiana it's one of the

1056
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:36,480
most haunted

1057
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,119
plantations in in

1058
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:41,599
south louisiana

1059
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,720
and

1060
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:43,599
they

1061
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,240
selling

1062
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,720
artwork and pieces of furniture and

1063
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:56,960
stuff like that out of the restaurant

1064
00:51:02,390 --> 00:50:59,839
and my wife and i bought a painting

1065
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,400
uh it was like a silk painting from the

1066
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,800
actual plantation itself

1067
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:07,839
and we brought it home and uh hung it up

1068
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,160
in our master bedroom

1069
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,559
and if you remember i i was rebuilding

1070
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,160
that house it's an old house there's no

1071
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:16,720
insulation it's all ship lap

1072
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,400
and um

1073
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:20,319
one night after a week after we had it

1074
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,160
hanging i was up in the front watching

1075
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,640
tv and my wife was in the back

1076
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,000
in the bedroom laying in the bed

1077
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:28,079
watching and she started yelling and i

1078
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:29,680
ran back there

1079
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,040
and it sounded like water was just

1080
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:36,000
pouring down in the walls in the in the

1081
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:38,559
bedroom okay and

1082
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:40,480
it didn't make any sense i mean it was

1083
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,440
loud

1084
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:43,760
and it didn't make any sense and and i'm

1085
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:45,200
standing and she's like well there's a

1086
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:47,119
water leak there's a lot i said no the

1087
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:48,880
pipes come from under the house there's

1088
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,880
nothing upstairs

1089
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,040
and uh it was loud i said well turn the

1090
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:54,880
tv off maybe it's coming out of the tv

1091
00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:58,800
so she shut the tv off and it was still

1092
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,359
pouring down in the walls

1093
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:02,160
and

1094
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,720
that painting i know it is it's that

1095
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,040
stupid painting from the myrtles

1096
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,800
and we walked over and took it off the

1097
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,440
wall and it it stopped

1098
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,119
no right there

1099
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,960
yeah just like that hall tree did as

1100
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:19,200
soon as we acknowledged it it stopped

1101
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:21,119
and we hung it back up and we were kind

1102
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,880
of freaked out about it and we were like

1103
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:25,680
okay whatever and then for about a month

1104
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,800
and a half

1105
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,720
every time it did it

1106
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,800
it wouldn't stop until we went and took

1107
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,520
that painting off the wall and finally

1108
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,359
it just went away

1109
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,359
and it's not so much as a real scary

1110
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:40,160
story it was just it was weird

1111
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,760
and uh

1112
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,520
i don't have any explanation for it but

1113
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:45,520
it came out of the myrtles who knows

1114
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,839
what's up with it i don't know well i

1115
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,079
i'll tell you what sean i'm never coming

1116
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,760
over to your house i'm just letting you

1117
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,359
know right

1118
00:53:02,710 --> 00:52:55,760
you can you can have all the kebabs you

1119
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:03,990
not enough

1120
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,599
hey sean enjoy your night man and thank

1121
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,839
you for sharing that with us

1122
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:11,359
all right buddy have a good night i'll

1123
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,160
talk to you i i've uh

1124
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,480
uh i've thought about that a lot

1125
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,839
is uh

1126
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:19,119
the

1127
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,000
are carrying stuff with and and buying a

1128
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,359
painting from the myrtles uh and sean's

1129
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,960
listening right now that's just not a

1130
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:32,319
good idea

1131
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:36,480
and

1132
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,359
the house

1133
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,400
the hall tree right

1134
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,960
man sean i don't know maybe i do need to

1135
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,200
hang out hang out with uh

1136
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,720
hang out with sean let's see who's up

1137
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:52,000
next how are you live on fade to black

1138
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:54,319
who's calling

1139
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,599
i want to hang out with sean this is

1140
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:57,760
mark from dallas what up homer what's up

1141
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:00,800
mark how are you doing

1142
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:02,480
man i'm just i'm just it's just

1143
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,000
day-to-day for me brother you know what

1144
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,680
have you ever had that kind of

1145
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:07,200
those days you know where it's just kind

1146
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,559
of

1147
00:54:12,270 --> 00:54:09,520
you know you don't really know what's

1148
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:12,280
going to hit you next i'm i'm i'm about

1149
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,760
720 days into that

1150
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:18,240
that's what i thought i'm about 7 20.

1151
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,040
i'm about 7 20. okay what's going on

1152
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,480
tonight

1153
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,640
at least somebody feels me okay man

1154
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:26,960
first thing i want to thank you

1155
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:29,680
for jordan turning me on to jordan's

1156
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,720
this man he's incredible uh

1157
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,400
never heard of that kid before but i

1158
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,400
knew that if you had him on that gives

1159
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,200
him instant cred with me

1160
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:40,559
and i'm listening to this kid saying

1161
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:43,760
talk about his influences uh

1162
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,640
brian may santana and i'm going okay

1163
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,400
well he must play kind of like those

1164
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,480
guys well that was

1165
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,280
if santana could play like dream theater

1166
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,720
yeah

1167
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,640
i mean this guy this kid can play

1168
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,200
anything yeah he's he's incredible he's

1169
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,160
incredible um he was sitting in there's

1170
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:04,880
a one of my favorite songs it's kind of

1171
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:06,160
like uh

1172
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,200
uh

1173
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,520
one of those hidden tracks by ingva it's

1174
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:10,880
called uh

1175
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:14,559
um i'll i'll see the light tonight right

1176
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:17,760
and um great song and anyway so he's

1177
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,480
just noodling here right and he's

1178
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,040
pulling guitars off the wall and

1179
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:25,599
and play and he's and he rolls into that

1180
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:26,559
right

1181
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,280
and uh and i'm standing next to him and

1182
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:31,520
i'm like man

1183
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:38,870
oh my god and he's he's so humble and

1184
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,359
he's he's just a really really really

1185
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:43,839
really great guy man and a great player

1186
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:45,280
but you know

1187
00:55:48,870 --> 00:55:46,720
you know you know what else man he was a

1188
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,880
great interview he was cool to have uh

1189
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,839
he you know he's well-rounded kid he uh

1190
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,920
it's not just all music with him uh he

1191
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,760
could actually carry on conversations

1192
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,599
about other stuff

1193
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:59,440
it was really cool and too you having

1194
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,480
him in

1195
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,319
in the bunker i thought was a cool uh it

1196
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:04,480
was a cool break yeah it was it was just

1197
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:06,640
really funny he goes man we can do this

1198
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,599
you know we can do this a bit what about

1199
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,000
what about me just coming in uh to live

1200
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:14,559
in the studio i said come on

1201
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:15,680
come on

1202
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,839
can i play some of those guitars i said

1203
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:20,160
you can play whatever you want man come

1204
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,920
on

1205
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,240
and can he play him brother good lord

1206
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,640
yeah he can uh and then

1207
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,319
another thing real quick man i didn't

1208
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,160
know i've never seen paul reed's hanging

1209
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,839
on your wall till

1210
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,599
like recently you moved some guitars

1211
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:35,359
around or something ah

1212
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,720
yeah yeah so yeah yeah

1213
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:40,880
as i look around uh

1214
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,280
some stuff got moved out to get work

1215
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:44,880
done on it

1216
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,280
um so i had some blank spots in the wall

1217
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:48,960
and so i moved some stuff from one side

1218
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:51,280
of the other and then i have uh i have a

1219
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,359
stash of stuff

1220
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,760
so i opened up some cases and and

1221
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,599
brought some other stuff in

1222
00:57:02,230 --> 00:56:59,200
and uh

1223
00:57:05,430 --> 00:57:02,240
you know so i didn't even realize that

1224
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,440
um that you know things just kind of

1225
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,920
have their own position right their own

1226
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:09,280
and i

1227
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,000
and when i move some stuff out to get

1228
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,720
some fret work done and new pickups and

1229
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,240
just that stuff

1230
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,000
so there were some blank spots so i had

1231
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:19,760
to fill it back in for the show that

1232
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:20,720
night

1233
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,280
and uh and i just uh

1234
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,440
moved some stuff around so why do you

1235
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:26,960
want me to move some more

1236
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:32,480
well i'm glad uh i'm just glad to see uh

1237
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,319
some rotation bro

1238
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,400
because uh

1239
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:38,079
you know you need to rotate those things

1240
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,920
around because now i mean i gigged with

1241
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:42,240
a with a paul reed i'm normally a strat

1242
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:43,520
guy but i dig with a paul reeve for

1243
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:45,200
probably five years

1244
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,160
and just absolutely loved it i just

1245
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,559
didn't have the tone and the the energy

1246
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:52,160
that that strat had ended up going back

1247
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:54,160
to strats but paul reed's are great

1248
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,400
guitars yeah yeah they are and uh

1249
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:00,480
i've known paul for years i used to work

1250
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:03,119
for paul i i worked for him

1251
00:58:06,349 --> 00:58:04,880
yeah in uh

1252
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,359
probably

1253
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,640
1998 99

1254
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:10,000
something like that i worked for him for

1255
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:11,200
about a year

1256
00:58:18,789 --> 00:58:16,400
and uh at one point at one point i had

1257
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:18,799
um in my living room i'm not kidding

1258
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,480
either i'm not making any of this up i

1259
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,880
had like eight

1260
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:24,880
ten top

1261
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:29,359
usa paul reed smith oh i mean like

1262
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:31,280
you know of every color i had hollow

1263
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:32,559
bodies

1264
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:37,520
uh i had mccarty's i had 22s i had 24s

1265
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,559
um it was crazy what what i had

1266
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,480
and uh

1267
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,000
i know right

1268
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,119
oh man well you so okay so

1269
00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:49,839
i ended up my son has it now we ended up

1270
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:51,799
with the

1271
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:56,000
1999 i think namm show gold top paul

1272
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:57,839
reed

1273
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:01,359
and i think it was the first gold top

1274
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,799
i know he said it was the only gold top

1275
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,200
they've ever sent the namm show

1276
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,960
anyway it's a long story i had a buddy

1277
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:08,960
of mine that that ended up working for

1278
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:11,680
paul reed too as a sales guy anyway we

1279
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:14,880
we ended up we still have that guitar

1280
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:16,880
and uh it's just a great guitar but

1281
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,520
anyway i digress well one of my one of

1282
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:21,920
my best friends uh he's been on the show

1283
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:24,559
actually uh james fox not the director

1284
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:28,079
james fox the original james fox

1285
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,200
and uh

1286
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:31,760
and now he uh he works for paul reed

1287
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:34,559
smith and he's been with paul for

1288
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,040
i don't know about five years now

1289
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:39,920
so one of my best friends right uh works

1290
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,400
for paul and so i've

1291
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,400
you know i you know you know i got a

1292
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:46,799
little inside action there so i've i've

1293
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:49,200
had my eye on

1294
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,200
uh i want and i've always wanted uh so

1295
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:56,319
it'll be here soon uh an original

1296
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,680
santana

1297
01:00:02,549 --> 00:59:59,680
right the gold

1298
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:02,559
yeah the yellow flame top santana

1299
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:06,480
and then they've got this uh pink

1300
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:08,799
uh custom 24

1301
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,200
um called bonnie pink

1302
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:13,440
and i just love that guitar so there

1303
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,440
might be a body pink

1304
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:17,839
showing up here i mean everybody should

1305
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,160
have a pink guitar man you know i've got

1306
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,400
like three or four i've got like three

1307
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:24,240
or four pink guitars

1308
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:27,119
and i never really realized that i just

1309
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:29,359
like the color right

1310
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:32,880
shell pink you know that that that that

1311
01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,559
that pink thing so uh there you go but

1312
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,799
but thanks for noticing that you know

1313
01:00:41,910 --> 01:00:40,079
and well

1314
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:41,920
one last how much time we got i got one

1315
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:44,480
more thing okay go ahead uh

1316
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:45,599
i watched

1317
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,160
ended up being one of my favorites over

1318
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,160
the years every time it's on

1319
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,079
i have to stop down and watch it and i

1320
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:55,920
bet i know what your opinion of this

1321
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,599
movie is was made in 1985

1322
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:01,599
the soundtrack was done by the great

1323
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,150
and the villain was willem a very young

1324
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:10,799
willem dafoe

1325
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:13,520
the movie is to live and die in l.a

1326
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:15,680
you've seen that oh man are you kidding

1327
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:17,839
me it's one of the greatest movies ever

1328
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,920
made my favorite movies yeah yeah yeah

1329
01:01:23,109 --> 01:01:21,280
that's one of my favorite movies it's

1330
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:23,119
one of the greatest movies ever made

1331
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:24,559
hands down

1332
01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,319
that was that was the beginning of

1333
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:27,920
willem dafoe's

1334
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,799
long long history of playing a villain

1335
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:32,400
you know i think that guy's played more

1336
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,119
villain parts in hollywood think about

1337
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:37,359
it that was 1985 dude that's almost 40

1338
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,400
years

1339
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:40,640
he's played villains for probably more

1340
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,760
than anybody i'll have to do some

1341
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:43,839
research on willem dafoe

1342
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:45,920
playing villains but he's a master man

1343
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:48,160
he plays he plays the best he plays the

1344
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,680
best and

1345
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,040
probably

1346
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:53,359
uh i'm going

1347
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:55,440
wild at heart

1348
01:02:02,710 --> 01:01:56,400
man

1349
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:02,720
william defoe nobody can play creepy

1350
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:06,640
like him he's he's just creepy and uh i

1351
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:07,839
don't know i've never

1352
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:10,559
i've never met him love to meet him

1353
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:14,000
um i've never met him but uh i bet he is

1354
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,480
just he's just awesome i bet you he's

1355
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:18,240
just awesome

1356
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:21,440
but uh before i go i gotta i i want to

1357
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,039
shout out to the youtube have you

1358
01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:24,960
checked out the youtube chat tonight

1359
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:26,640
that place i got caught in a mosh pit in

1360
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,280
there a while ago and almost got injured

1361
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,960
crazy stuff going on in there tonight

1362
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,119
why would happen

1363
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:35,520
god just people are it's must be a full

1364
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:36,960
moon or something i don't know people

1365
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:39,200
are crazy in there tonight

1366
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:40,720
been a lot of fun

1367
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:43,680
shout out to everybody man um hold on um

1368
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:46,880
oh that's william defoe uh in wild at

1369
01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:47,680
heart

1370
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:50,559
his name was bobby peru

1371
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:53,920
remember that bobby peru

1372
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,190
hey mark enjoy your weekend my man thank

1373
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:01,280
you so much

1374
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:02,640
all right brother talk to you soon have

1375
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:06,079
a good one always great to hear from

1376
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:08,640
mark from dallas

1377
01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:10,640
this is fade to black i am your host

1378
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,160
jimmy church

1379
01:03:20,860 --> 01:03:14,240
william defoe that's a good call right

1380
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:26,589
[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black

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i am your host jimmy church

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thursday night fader night open lines

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all night long

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seven four seven two two eight two zero

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five one

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and uh i'm gonna set the tone here uh

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i just want uh

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i want to take a minute uh to go over

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some stuff with everybody i'll get back

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to the phone calls in a couple of

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minutes here because on monday

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the us intelligence authorization act

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the iaa for 2022 was unveiled within the

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government-wide spending package

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and yes it included the gillibrand pages

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that shows that uh the tide is changing

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with the us government's unidentified

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aerial phenomenon investigations

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the iaa

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and gillibrand legislation means that

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the new uap office will now be providing

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quarter quarterly

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uap reports in addition to the bi-yearly

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reports required by the national defense

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authorization act of 2022 the ndaa

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legislation but

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as discussed many times on this show and

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again last night with richard dolan

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we officially get this and i quote

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the director of national intelligence

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and the secretary of defense

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shall jointly require that each element

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of the intelligence community and

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component of the department of defense

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with data relating

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to the unidentified area phenomena

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makes such data available immediately to

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the unidentified aerial phenomenon task

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force or successor entity

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and to the national air and space

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intelligence center

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say what

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the involvement

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of the national air and space

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intelligence center otherwise known as

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nasic

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opens the door to its potential

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involvement in exploiting uap technology

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something referenced within the ndaa

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2022

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which requires the uap office to provide

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and i quote an update on any efforts

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underway on the ability to capture or

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exploit discovered unidentified aerial

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phenomena end quote now here's the deal

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and it only gets better

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nasic

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is based

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at wright-patterson air force base

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let me repeat nasic the national air and

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space intelligence center

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is based at wright-patterson air force

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base yes it's nasik that'll lead any

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reverse engineering efforts involving

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uap and in turn

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pass the tech on to private corporations

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and defense contractors

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to be clear

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nasik's involvement opens the door to

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defense contractors who have always had

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a role in the us government's ufo and

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uap

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cover-up

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also in the budget

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is language for the establishment

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of a space force yes that space force a

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space force intelligence analysis group

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within

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nasik

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also to be run out of right path

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we have talked many times over the years

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on this program about the foreign

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technology division based out of wright

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patterson

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and that the ftd

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was where all crashed retrieve off world

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vehicles were taken and that is what the

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foreign in ftd stood for

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right ufos

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right we've discussed this so many times

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well

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now we know for sure

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because the foreign technology division

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at right pat

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whose mission remains the same

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has officially changed its name

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to

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you guessed it

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nasic

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the national air and space intelligence

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center

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i guess the word

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uh foreign and the use of it

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wasn't politically correct anymore

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seriously

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times are changing

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with that let's go back to the phones hi

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you're live on fade to black who's

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calling

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hey jimmy it's drew from

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from california picking hey drew from

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california picking how are you man

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what's cracking tonight

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not much how are you doing how are you

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doing brother i'm doing great man it's

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always great to hear your voice this is

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this is like uh the weekly report from

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drew

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this is awesome

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couple weekends off or weeks off but uh

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hey it's so funny you're talking about

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wright patterson air force base because

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the topic i wanted to to discuss with

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you tonight

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actually has is about a former employee

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at right field in 1947 and that is

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lieutenant colonel wendell stevens

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uh-huh

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you know who he is right i

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do he is quite the guy he was a uh

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air force pilot and he worked at right

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field in 1947

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and uh this man

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had after he left the military had such

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an interest in ufos that he collected

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the largest amount of photographic

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evidence of ufos

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uh in in private hands

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and recently in a group that i'm in i

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won't mention the group but a ufo group

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this one gentleman started showing his

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collection

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of colonel wendell stevens photographs

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and apparently

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after wendell stevens died

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all of his um photographs were in a

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storage unit and there was another

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gentleman that inherited them i guess

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yep and then it and then he passed away

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and then this guy somehow jimmy

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was able to acquire a large amount of

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wendell stevens and uh photographs and i

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was just blown away by these photographs

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yeah there um i think um he's been on

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the show uh before when when everything

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started to go down

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um

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the collection was uh uh

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let's just say it was mobile for a

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minute

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um and uh

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but yes

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uh i would say

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wendell probably did have the largest

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collection of photographs and videos in

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in private hands uh when it came to the

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ufo subject and when i was a kid

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now i'm going back uh i'm going back 25

1654
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,000
years maybe 30 years

1655
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:58,159
um a friend of mine gave me a stack of

1656
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,280
uh ufo videos and uh you know home

1657
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,199
recorded stuff

1658
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:05,440
and you remember i don't know if you're

1659
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:07,760
old enough but back in the day

1660
01:16:11,350 --> 01:16:08,560
they

1661
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,360
there used to be like four hour video

1662
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:13,679
tapes right extended

1663
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:16,239
videotapes four hours long

1664
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:17,280
and

1665
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:20,560
in this collection of videos one of them

1666
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:24,080
was wendell stevens for four hours going

1667
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:25,360
through

1668
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:26,080
his

1669
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,239
and i watched that thing over and over

1670
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:32,560
again he had video too it wasn't just

1671
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:35,920
photographs but yeah certainly uh

1672
01:16:39,510 --> 01:16:37,760
wendell and and

1673
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:39,520
here's the other part

1674
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,000
um i don't know how much of it was true

1675
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:45,360
but uh wendell could definitely tell a

1676
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:49,840
good story right and so yeah and and

1677
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:50,960
so

1678
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:53,120
yes he's showing his photographs and and

1679
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:55,120
the video it was just great i watched it

1680
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,360
so many times i wore that tape out

1681
01:17:01,990 --> 01:16:59,760
but but he told some pretty incredible

1682
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,000
stories you know with the air force

1683
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:04,880
flying around in in alaska landing on

1684
01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:06,159
the ice

1685
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:07,360
and uh

1686
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,320
you know ufos parked right there flying

1687
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:12,320
saucers on the ice

1688
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:15,679
up in alaska and uh shooting film of

1689
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,400
this

1690
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:18,080
putting the film and canisters going

1691
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:20,719
back to the base and uh they would be

1692
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,480
met you know by

1693
01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:25,360
uh the cia or other air force personnel

1694
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,840
and and then the films

1695
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,679
would leave his hands

1696
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:31,840
and he doesn't know you know where they

1697
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,480
went to and and where they are today but

1698
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:36,560
he was up there shooting flying saucers

1699
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:38,560
on the ice in alaska now

1700
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,800
is it a is it a true story

1701
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:42,960
ah it's a good one

1702
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,320
i don't know you know and uh wendell

1703
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,760
wendell was somebody i had a great

1704
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,920
interest in for many years uh there's

1705
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,600
there's no doubt he was a wealth of

1706
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:53,600
information

1707
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:56,320
and i watched a video on him on one of

1708
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:58,719
my roku channels and

1709
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:01,280
he rift about all the stuff like you

1710
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:02,080
said

1711
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:05,600
you know through project sign blue book

1712
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,239
and he just didn't miss a beat the guy

1713
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,800
had such an incredible memory for being

1714
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,120
an older gentleman that i just didn't

1715
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,159
detect any kind of bs coming from him

1716
01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,920
and then he went into

1717
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:20,480
investigating uh the famous

1718
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:23,679
guy billy meer meyer yeah billy meyer

1719
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:25,360
and that was billy meyer that was a

1720
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:28,159
whole nother part of wendell's life

1721
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:29,360
and uh

1722
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:30,400
yeah

1723
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:33,600
that was kind of strange because he

1724
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:36,080
lived with uh billy meyer for

1725
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:38,880
87 days i think straight and that kind

1726
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:40,400
of surprised me because

1727
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,800
you know he's mired in controversy a lot

1728
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:45,280
of people think he was a hoaxer and i'd

1729
01:18:49,189 --> 01:18:46,719
like to get your take on that billy

1730
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:49,199
meyer well every time i bring up billy

1731
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:51,920
meyer on the show and and and give my

1732
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,040
opinion

1733
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:55,360
uh you know i i have to deal with the

1734
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,640
email

1735
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:59,040
but but here's here's my take on billy

1736
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:00,719
meyer okay

1737
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,760
all right

1738
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:03,920
if i go back

1739
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,239
i had a friend of mine his name is dell

1740
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:09,199
and dell was a guitar player in in a

1741
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:10,320
band

1742
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,760
we were really close in the uh in the

1743
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,199
early 80s

1744
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:23,840
and um so then

1745
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:27,199
uh he invites me down to his brother's

1746
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:30,320
house down in orange county

1747
01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:33,920
and i'm going to say this was 84.85

1748
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,199
like right in there

1749
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,360
and and i go down to his brother's place

1750
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,920
for a cookout and and it was you know it

1751
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:41,120
was great

1752
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,400
and and i walked through uh to go to the

1753
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:46,320
bathroom and i'm walking through his

1754
01:19:48,830 --> 01:19:47,520
house

1755
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,840
and i

1756
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,960
see uh

1757
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,520
his office but that that wasn't that big

1758
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:55,840
of a deal but i looked in and i could

1759
01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:56,960
see

1760
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:59,280
there was a coffee table in there and on

1761
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:01,199
the coffee table

1762
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:04,480
is a book a big book and on the cover

1763
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,800
is a flying saucer

1764
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:08,960
and i was like what is that what

1765
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:11,679
so i kind of you know i break the rules

1766
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:14,239
you know i go into this man's

1767
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:15,840
private office

1768
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:18,080
and and i pick up the book and it's

1769
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:19,760
billy myers

1770
01:20:24,870 --> 01:20:22,320
uh coffee table book and it's big right

1771
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:24,880
it's big and it's got that the cover of

1772
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,360
the uh the famous uh

1773
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,520
uh christmas ufo whatever you want to

1774
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:31,280
call it with the balls on the side in

1775
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,560
front of his house

1776
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:34,000
in the driveway

1777
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:35,840
and and i'm looking i'm like what the

1778
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:36,719
heck

1779
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:39,040
i don't know who billy meyer is

1780
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:40,719
and and i'm

1781
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:42,080
flipping through the book and i'm

1782
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:43,840
looking at these photographs and i'm

1783
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,000
like holy crap so anyway so i go to the

1784
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:48,320
back i go back outside i'm like what's

1785
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:51,280
with the ufo stuff hey man ufos are real

1786
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:53,280
and i've seen aliens

1787
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,239
and we sit and we have this talk and and

1788
01:21:02,229 --> 01:20:59,120
and we uh have this conversation about

1789
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:02,239
billy meyer so anyway so now i i go back

1790
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:03,520
home

1791
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,560
and i'm all on this billy meyer trip

1792
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,239
you know i'm already

1793
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,880
investigating ufos and researching and

1794
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:12,560
things and i'm really into the subject

1795
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:15,520
again this is almost 40 years ago

1796
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:19,600
and uh and it was about i'm i'm fully

1797
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,800
i'm fully on board with billy meyer okay

1798
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,480
all right

1799
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:26,159
somebody brings me

1800
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:30,239
uh a video uh uh a collection of videos

1801
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:31,600
uh into

1802
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,280
my office

1803
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,880
and i take them home and i'm watching

1804
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:36,960
and one of them

1805
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:39,520
was a video

1806
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:42,400
um and this was early on too debunking

1807
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:44,480
billy meyer

1808
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:46,639
and and i'm watching this thing and i'm

1809
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,560
like what

1810
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:50,400
it's not real

1811
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:53,520
right he faked this stuff and and

1812
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:54,320
now

1813
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,080
more research has come out over the

1814
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:58,639
years right and and and some of it

1815
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,639
pretty conclusive and and things but

1816
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,520
anyway

1817
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:03,360
so now i go back

1818
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,080
and i'm talking uh with dell and a

1819
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:08,159
couple of other of my friends about

1820
01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:12,560
billy meyer and and everybody was uh on

1821
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,800
one side of the fence or the other right

1822
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:17,040
but as we started to talk about this in

1823
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:19,520
this video this debunking video now this

1824
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:20,880
is like 80

1825
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:24,400
i'm gonna say this is probably 87 or so

1826
01:22:29,189 --> 01:22:27,440
uh started to make the rounds

1827
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:29,199
billy meyer

1828
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:32,560
faked it right okay so

1829
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,040
i uh

1830
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:36,800
i stopped

1831
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:42,080
to push billy to the side

1832
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,760
you know and and around this time

1833
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:46,239
communion comes out and there were some

1834
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:47,679
other things that were happening in the

1835
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,239
ufo community and i just i just put

1836
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,199
billy meyer to the side over the years

1837
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:54,960
since then

1838
01:22:59,310 --> 01:22:57,360
uh the billy myers stuff that started to

1839
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,320
come out uh

1840
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,239
relentlessly and i'm seeing it i just

1841
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:05,120
dismissed billy i just i just wrote it

1842
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:09,440
off now but here is here is the paradox

1843
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,480
if there's a weird paradox here drew

1844
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:13,760
is that

1845
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,520
billy meyer

1846
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,440
and that book

1847
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:19,679
was instrumental

1848
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:20,639
in

1849
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:27,520
right fundamental man i mean

1850
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:29,440
forced me into going into so many

1851
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,880
different areas

1852
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:32,560
of what

1853
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:35,679
the ufo research uh meant to me at that

1854
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,480
time

1855
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,120
so we have that right he was part of the

1856
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:41,679
reason why you and i are talking today

1857
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,719
yeah you know and so i i will give billy

1858
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:46,639
credit where credit's due

1859
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:49,840
but also it taught me a lesson

1860
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:51,920
don't go all in

1861
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:55,040
because billy meyer broke my heart

1862
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:58,480
broke my heart man and and and when when

1863
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,520
you find out that was 40 years ago

1864
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:03,600
and when you find out what that pain is

1865
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:04,560
like

1866
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,600
you know to go all in with something and

1867
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:09,120
then to find out

1868
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:10,960
at least to me

1869
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:13,679
that it wasn't real i didn't like that

1870
01:24:18,629 --> 01:24:14,719
feeling

1871
01:24:20,709 --> 01:24:18,639
i didn't like it at all so uh i have uh

1872
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:20,719
since then i've got a built-in defense

1873
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:22,960
mechanism man

1874
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:26,080
i just don't go all in i i don't do it i

1875
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:27,360
i don't

1876
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:29,199
it's painful you know his wife came

1877
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:32,400
forward and she admitted that he had put

1878
01:24:37,350 --> 01:24:34,880
a couple trash can lids together and

1879
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,360
riveted some uh stuff on the sides of

1880
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:39,920
them and suspended them notice on his

1881
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,480
photographs there's always trees

1882
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:44,719
and things in the in the in the area

1883
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:47,440
which he could possibly string uh you

1884
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:50,800
know a fishing line across and but i

1885
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:53,679
gotta say for the time late 60s early

1886
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:54,800
70s

1887
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:57,280
he was with before photoshop he was

1888
01:25:03,669 --> 01:24:59,199
really fooling a lot of people now he

1889
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:03,679
was he was but and and and after um i

1890
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:06,400
watched uh some of this evidence right

1891
01:25:11,830 --> 01:25:08,560
and i started to pull back

1892
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:11,840
i i went back and i watched because

1893
01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:13,760
there was a you know that film clip of

1894
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,000
his which we have all seen on

1895
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:18,719
on tv a million times right with the the

1896
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:21,360
craft flying around the tree right okay

1897
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,920
yeah so i went back and i really watched

1898
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:25,120
that

1899
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:29,760
video

1900
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:31,040
um

1901
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,550
i'm just gonna say this straight

1902
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:37,920
i uh

1903
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:38,840
i

1904
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:47,600
was real

1905
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,040
okay and then

1906
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:51,760
but but i knew that it wasn't but i i

1907
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:53,440
didn't want to it's like cognitive

1908
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,600
dissonance you know you just don't want

1909
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:57,360
the proof out there that's going to

1910
01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:59,280
change your belief system

1911
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:01,760
and and it was

1912
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:04,400
something that i fought well after

1913
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:06,159
you know after four or five years i go i

1914
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:07,600
went back and i watched that video and i

1915
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:09,920
went man how how could i have ever

1916
01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:11,679
thought that that was real

1917
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:13,760
right i mean it is

1918
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:16,400
it's just the stupidest thing

1919
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:17,920
that you can look at

1920
01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:20,239
but i took it man i took it hook line

1921
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:24,719
and sinker i did i did i did i i did but

1922
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:27,600
yeah the funniest thing was he he showed

1923
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:28,880
two women

1924
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,600
uh dressed in some kind of outfits

1925
01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:33,600
and he claimed that they were venusians

1926
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,560
or uh playarians or what have you and

1927
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:39,120
later on people said those were the part

1928
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those were gold digger dancers from the

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dean martin show right right and when

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when you go and you see that right and

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01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,719
you see it for yourself side by side

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01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,480
you're like oh come on

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01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:52,960
and then i think there was another one

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uh

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01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:56,880
he said that he took a picture from

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01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,360
out the window of of one of the craft of

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01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,320
uh

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01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:02,880
of a pterodactyl right

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01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:05,199
and and the pterodactyl had like a

1940
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,679
squirrel in its talents i think i think

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01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:09,520
it's been a while since i've seen it and

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01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:11,840
that came from a children's book

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01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:16,159
right and and i'm just like ah

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01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:17,360
he claimed to be

1945
01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:21,440
was was it true that he ever predicted

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01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,920
anything in the future i i i stopped

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01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:25,760
following that uh

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01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,600
a while ago so um you know i've heard

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01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:32,080
uh things and that he published books

1950
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:32,960
and and

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01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:36,480
completely checked out

1952
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:40,159
i i i did i did the dean martin stuff

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01:27:46,629 --> 01:27:41,120
was

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01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:46,639
and uh but over the top yeah yeah and so

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01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:50,080
and it it it's it's really sad that uh

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01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:51,440
there are

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uh uh people out there it it's just a

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01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:58,000
it's just a point of reference where

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01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:00,719
people just want to believe and i get

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that because

1961
01:28:07,110 --> 01:28:04,719
you're brought into this community

1962
01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:07,120
for your own personal reasons

1963
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:08,800
you've had an experience you've had a

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01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:11,280
sighting you've made contact you're

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01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:14,320
questioning things and and you know that

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01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,400
the world isn't what it seems right and

1967
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:18,400
you know that you're not being told the

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01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:20,960
truth so you come into this community

1969
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:23,520
and you're searching for answers uh just

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01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:25,679
like me you know and you're a little bit

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01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,960
vulnerable

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01:28:30,790 --> 01:28:28,800
and then you get sucked into something

1973
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:30,800
like that and

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01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:33,120
again cognitive dissonance comes into

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01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:34,159
play

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01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:34,960
where

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01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,400
you're so wrapped up in it that

1978
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:40,400
and you know that something is going on

1979
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,360
because of your own personal experiences

1980
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:45,679
and why you are here

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01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,120
so it doesn't change the fact that

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01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:51,760
ufos are visiting us et is visiting us

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01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:54,159
that things are being seen every day it

1984
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:57,120
doesn't change that but it's it's

1985
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:58,719
unfortunate that

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01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,960
um so many uh

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01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:01,760
are

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01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:06,639
they're waist deep in you know what i

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01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:09,280
mean and and they can't get out and they

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01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:11,040
don't want to get out

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01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:13,600
they don't want the proof

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01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,320
they don't want they don't want to have

1993
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:18,480
uh their belief system altered or

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01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,360
changed and i get the reasons why i

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01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,040
totally do i'm telling you it was

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01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:24,639
painful for me

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01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:25,920
i mean

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01:29:30,470 --> 01:29:28,000
it was painful it'd be i didn't like

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01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:30,480
seeing it it'd be like seeing the uh our

2000
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,480
uh finding out that the patterson gimlin

2001
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,320
film was faked

2002
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:36,800
the patty video of bigfoot walking

2003
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,480
across the sandbar that would just kill

2004
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:40,880
me too well you know what would be worse

2005
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,480
than that

2006
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,320
if i find out you know something like

2007
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,480
that santa claus isn't real

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01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:49,199
and i you know i don't need my belief

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01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,639
system altered

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01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:53,120
you know right and and and that's that's

2011
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:55,600
that's really the truth so

2012
01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:58,560
the point is uh and and i try to give

2013
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:01,760
this advice uh as often as i can which

2014
01:30:04,229 --> 01:30:03,199
is look

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01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:04,239
listen

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01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:08,880
have to say

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01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:12,960
collect it but don't go all in

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01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:15,440
right right because if it goes south

2019
01:30:19,750 --> 01:30:17,360
you didn't have you know you you just

2020
01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:19,760
dipped your toe in the water that that's

2021
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:22,000
it right you didn't jump in the deep end

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01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,520
that's all and if it does go south

2023
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:27,120
whatever it is

2024
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:30,480
you can you you can keep your sanity

2025
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:31,360
right

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01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:33,760
and and that's really the best advice

2027
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,080
and and i learned that with billy

2028
01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:38,400
uh back in the mid 80s man and it was a

2029
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:39,520
painful

2030
01:30:45,430 --> 01:30:43,600
thought that everybody

2031
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:45,440
when it came to ufos was being straight

2032
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:46,639
up

2033
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:49,360
and i did man i just i put my trust into

2034
01:30:53,830 --> 01:30:51,280
everything hey drew i got to get to a

2035
01:30:56,229 --> 01:30:53,840
commercial man very good you're the very

2036
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:56,239
best yeah thank you so much man i'll see

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01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:58,560
you next thursday absolutely time to

2038
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:01,120
fade the blast time to fade to black

2039
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:04,000
that's drew from california picking

2040
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:05,679
go check out his youtube channel

2041
01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:07,840
california picking our meals jimmy

2042
01:31:11,270 --> 01:31:09,280
church this is fade to black it's

2043
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,280
thursday night fader night more of your

2044
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:13,440
phone calls after this short break seven

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01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:14,639
four seven

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two two

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five

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01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:31,590
[Music]

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01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:34,709
way out here we listen to jimmy church

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01:31:39,510 --> 01:31:36,890
you're listening to fade to black

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01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:39,520
[Applause]

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01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:41,679
you're listening to jimmy church and

2053
01:31:48,230 --> 01:31:43,199
fade to black

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01:31:48,240 --> 01:32:00,070
[Applause]

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01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:02,550
this is jimmy church jason martell's

2056
01:32:07,430 --> 01:32:04,639
book knowledge apocalypse 10-year

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when their gods visited them they never

2060
01:32:16,550 --> 01:32:14,000
say their gods came from across the

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01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:16,560
ocean or from the mountains they always

2062
01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:19,120
came down from the skies was ancient man

2063
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:21,840
visited by gods or extraterrestrials

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01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:23,520
we have not been told the full truth

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01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:25,840
about our human past there was a time

2066
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:27,760
when all the ancient cultures lived

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amongst beings they considered their

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01:32:32,470 --> 01:32:30,560
gods

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the search for truth leads us down the

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path of learning where the et's might

2071
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come from and why they are here to

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01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:39,040
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and learn the truth about human origins

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do you want to be an official fate or

2081
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:03,280
not of course you do this is jimmy

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01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:05,520
church of fade to black just go to our

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01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:11,280
fadernots when you think about the

2086
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:13,120
future of our country and where we're

2087
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:14,960
headed do you wonder about the food

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01:33:20,229 --> 01:33:18,080
supply i do disruptions in the food

2089
01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:20,239
supply chain could be disastrous and

2090
01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:23,040
they usually occur with little warning

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that's why the smartest thing you can do

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01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:28,000
today is to stockpile emergency food

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water and other essentials i personally

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right now save 20 off a full four week

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doesn't it especially now so go to

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2107
01:34:08,870 --> 01:34:06,400
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2108
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2109
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:12,000
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2122
01:34:49,510 --> 01:34:43,360
you listen to us and we listen to you

2123
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:51,510
you are listening to fade to black with

2124
01:35:01,750 --> 01:34:58,790
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

2125
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:01,760
jimmy church this is revolution the

2126
01:35:07,830 --> 01:35:04,560
revolution will not be televised the

2127
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:07,840
revolution is on radio

2128
01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:36,709
[Music]

2129
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:52,790
welcome back to fade to block i'm here

2130
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:54,159
with jimmy chairs thursday night fader

2131
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:55,840
night open lines night long best night

2132
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:57,440
of the week

2133
01:36:02,310 --> 01:35:58,960
[Music]

2134
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:02,320
fader night is the greatest night in all

2135
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:04,800
of talk radio in all of the world i got

2136
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:07,679
billy meyer right there

2137
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:10,960
i got the i want to believe i get the uh

2138
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:13,119
the actual i don't have the actual but

2139
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:16,400
i've got a reprint of the actual poster

2140
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,159
from the x-files right there it's not a

2141
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:23,119
a re-creation or somebody's

2142
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:25,920
thing no it's uh the actual uh poster

2143
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:27,840
it's uh pretty cool

2144
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:29,920
right there i want to believe

2145
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:32,000
billy meyer

2146
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:35,520
yeah man okay all right i can already

2147
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:39,760
see the emails coming in oh man

2148
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:41,119
let's go back to the phones hi you're

2149
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:44,080
live on fade to block who's calling

2150
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:46,480
yo what's up man my name is big dre i'm

2151
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,400
from fresno california what's up big dre

2152
01:36:54,070 --> 01:36:52,560
hey man uh jimmy i just want to say bro

2153
01:36:56,870 --> 01:36:54,080
i love your show

2154
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,880
um i've heard you before um when i've

2155
01:37:01,669 --> 01:36:59,199
been researching people like jim mars

2156
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:01,679
um rp jim mars

2157
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:04,960
billy carson uh linda molten howe

2158
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,040
and then a couple weeks ago i started

2159
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:09,600
listening to your show more fully and

2160
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:12,000
man i really enjoy it i myself i worked

2161
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:14,800
in radio for several years um here in

2162
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,280
fresno on the hip-hop station

2163
01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:19,840
i've taken my uh my skills that i

2164
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:20,800
learned

2165
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:22,560
to a podcast now

2166
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:24,080
uh but one of the things i want to say

2167
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:26,080
uh like i just said um really enjoy your

2168
01:37:28,229 --> 01:37:27,040
show

2169
01:37:30,149 --> 01:37:28,239
uh the other night you had an

2170
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:30,159
african-american gentleman on the on the

2171
01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:32,560
show uh i can't remember his name right

2172
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:34,960
now roderick

2173
01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:36,880
roderick martin yeah there you go

2174
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:38,880
yeah there you go and he was talking

2175
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:40,480
about

2176
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,800
uh

2177
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:41,920
[Music]

2178
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,119
the

2179
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:45,600
african-american community i'm hispanic

2180
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,280
myself but

2181
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:49,360
i know what he means as far as it's kind

2182
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,560
of taboo

2183
01:37:55,270 --> 01:37:52,480
in our community

2184
01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:55,280
um you know a lot of people you know

2185
01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:57,199
i mean once you even start talking about

2186
01:37:59,669 --> 01:37:58,239
like

2187
01:38:03,430 --> 01:37:59,679
government conspiracies they kind of

2188
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:03,440
shoot you down but alien conspiracies

2189
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,840
that they're definitely just

2190
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,560
never talked about but man um i had

2191
01:38:12,149 --> 01:38:10,000
wanted to

2192
01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:12,159
ask bill carson what he thought about

2193
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,159
you know that but

2194
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,400
roderick i mean man he he touched on it

2195
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:17,920
uh

2196
01:38:21,750 --> 01:38:19,600
so much the other night and i really

2197
01:38:23,910 --> 01:38:21,760
appreciate i want to say thank you to

2198
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:23,920
him and to you

2199
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:26,159
for that and um to the whole ufo

2200
01:38:28,229 --> 01:38:27,440
community

2201
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:28,239
uh

2202
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:30,320
much love well let me ask you this big

2203
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:33,679
gray um a great name by the way

2204
01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:36,880
uh why why do you why do you think it is

2205
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,320
so taboo

2206
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:41,199
in in the black community

2207
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:43,119
you know um

2208
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,760
i think a lot of what he said

2209
01:38:50,870 --> 01:38:48,239
is rooted in a lot of religion

2210
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:50,880
you know um

2211
01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:53,440
uh black are african-americans and

2212
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,560
hispanics

2213
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:57,040
very very christian you know it's very

2214
01:39:01,590 --> 01:39:00,080
you know if it goes against the church

2215
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:01,600
it it's

2216
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:04,080
you know they just don't don't like it

2217
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:05,360
and um

2218
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,280
but you know i do see a lot a little bit

2219
01:39:11,910 --> 01:39:09,840
of uh you know people

2220
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:11,920
people uh are getting into it now you

2221
01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:13,760
see a lot of videos on tick tock and

2222
01:39:16,870 --> 01:39:16,080
instagram of these these ships flying

2223
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:16,880
over

2224
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:19,199
in mexico and everything else and

2225
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,880
it's just amazing but

2226
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:22,800
yeah i do think a lot of religion does

2227
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:24,880
have a lot to do with the

2228
01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:27,360
african-american and hispanic community

2229
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:30,960
accepting uh ufos yeah and uh and your

2230
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:33,760
point is is is well taken and i and i

2231
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:36,560
totally understand it and and here's

2232
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:39,840
here's the weird part

2233
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:40,719
the

2234
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:49,040
most watched television shows in all of

2235
01:39:52,470 --> 01:39:50,400
mexico

2236
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:52,480
um that has been covering the subject

2237
01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:57,600
for a long time and i have had uh

2238
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,520
members of the hispanic community

2239
01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:01,440
literally come up to me and go have you

2240
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,440
ever met jaime musan

2241
01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:05,040
right i'm talking about people on the

2242
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:06,840
street right now i'm not talking i had a

2243
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:09,199
ufo conference

2244
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:10,800
and uh

2245
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:13,840
when uh when they find out about what i

2246
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:14,880
do

2247
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:17,040
and and this cop they they will

2248
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,159
everybody watches jaime you know that

2249
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,719
everybody watches ibm mexico

2250
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:24,239
and uh

2251
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:27,199
and so he has been able to

2252
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:29,040
uh pierce through what you're talking

2253
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:32,000
about because it is a strong catholic

2254
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:33,040
nation

2255
01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:37,199
right and and i totally get that i i do

2256
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:40,320
and and jaime has been able to uh

2257
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:41,840
establish

2258
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:42,639
uh

2259
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:47,040
through his reporting

2260
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:49,360
but establish a beachhead

2261
01:40:52,870 --> 01:40:51,600
where people can go to uh for

2262
01:40:54,310 --> 01:40:52,880
information

2263
01:40:57,990 --> 01:40:54,320
and uh

2264
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:58,000
i've hats off to jaime you know and i i

2265
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,239
had a chance i've i've met him a few

2266
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:02,159
times over the years but

2267
01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:03,360
last year

2268
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:05,679
we really had an opportunity to uh sit

2269
01:41:08,070 --> 01:41:07,040
down and talk

2270
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:08,080
and

2271
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:10,639
i haven't had him on the show

2272
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:13,199
you've reminded me that i should

2273
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,600
and uh i need to reach out to tahani i

2274
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:17,679
would love to have him on the show but i

2275
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:19,199
went through

2276
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:22,480
um i sat through his presentation

2277
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:24,560
and he had told me backstage i

2278
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:25,760
introduced him and he had told me

2279
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:28,480
backstage he said church look man don't

2280
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:29,679
leave

2281
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:32,320
i'm gonna show some stuff today all

2282
01:41:35,990 --> 01:41:33,840
right so just

2283
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,000
because no what if what he's saying is

2284
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:38,000
normally i introduce somebody

2285
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,119
and then i'll i'll walk out right

2286
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:43,840
um he said no don't don't don't so i did

2287
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:45,520
i sat

2288
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:47,920
uh through jaime's presentation and i

2289
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:49,520
gotta say

2290
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:51,760
i don't know

2291
01:41:57,430 --> 01:41:53,760
i because he's got such an established

2292
01:42:00,149 --> 01:41:57,440
network of uh people that send him uh

2293
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,159
images and video but i sat through that

2294
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:03,520
presentation and he he showed some stuff

2295
01:42:07,550 --> 01:42:04,480
there

2296
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:07,560
uh that was just incredible i mean

2297
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:10,880
incredible uh footage and

2298
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:13,520
and uh again hats off to heimi that he's

2299
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:15,280
been able to do this

2300
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:18,560
uh for the entire country of uh mexico

2301
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:21,280
where he's got a lot of respect you know

2302
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:23,920
now now we have here in the united

2303
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:26,719
states we got billy carson that is is

2304
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:29,280
doing it and and

2305
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,960
yeah yeah and and roderick martin uh uh

2306
01:42:37,030 --> 01:42:34,719
he is uh

2307
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:37,040
uh a great host uh he's very

2308
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:39,679
knowledgeable and he's trying to get

2309
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,239
these answers you know and billy's not

2310
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:43,920
going to stop

2311
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,000
fully committed

2312
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:50,400
uh to moving this forward

2313
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:53,040
and you know billy's uh hip-hop label

2314
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:55,840
that he has got

2315
01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:57,760
is uh pantheon

2316
01:43:04,950 --> 01:43:02,080
uh has got donnie arcade um on there and

2317
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:04,960
a great hip-hop artist that

2318
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:07,600
absolutely raps about

2319
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,199
this subject

2320
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:12,080
you know and not only ufos and e.t and

2321
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,800
the anunnaki but egypt

2322
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:16,960
right and just things

2323
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,199
and uh and and and i've often thought

2324
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:22,960
um and big dre

2325
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,440
i want your opinion on this if the song

2326
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:26,960
is good

2327
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:31,360
then maybe you'll go back and actually

2328
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:33,679
listen to the words right but you have

2329
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:34,800
to have

2330
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:40,239
you know all of that and the production

2331
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,199
and and donnie's albums and when they

2332
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,360
hit the billboard chart

2333
01:43:49,669 --> 01:43:47,119
charts i should say

2334
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:49,679
um and i immediately had uh donny on

2335
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:51,199
fade to black and i also had them on

2336
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:54,400
over at coast to coast uh too as well

2337
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:55,280
um

2338
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:58,159
and and i thought to myself

2339
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:00,880
that the the kids out there that are

2340
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:03,040
listening i say kids i'm 58 you know

2341
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:04,880
anybody younger than me that is

2342
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:06,800
listening to you know as a fan of hip

2343
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,320
hop right

2344
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:11,040
um what a great way to get this

2345
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:12,880
information out there

2346
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:15,679
because they're listening to great music

2347
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:17,440
and then they're going back and go no

2348
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:18,639
okay

2349
01:44:22,870 --> 01:44:21,760
the anunnaki i wonder what that is

2350
01:44:25,109 --> 01:44:22,880
you know what i mean is that an

2351
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:25,119
effective way to get the message out i i

2352
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:27,119
think that it is well yes definitely

2353
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,639
definitely especially

2354
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,320
you know in the

2355
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:32,639
the social media age that we live in now

2356
01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:33,520
i

2357
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:44,320
phone call

2358
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,159
and uh don't be a stranger big dre

2359
01:44:49,910 --> 01:44:48,159
what's the name of your podcast here's

2360
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:49,920
your shot it's called

2361
01:44:56,310 --> 01:44:52,239
it's called a fresh city tv

2362
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,320
on youtube fresh city tv on youtube all

2363
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:57,840
right fade or not

2364
01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:59,360
uh post

2365
01:45:03,270 --> 01:45:01,600
yeah post the links up in twitter and uh

2366
01:45:05,189 --> 01:45:03,280
i'll get it out there for you thank you

2367
01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:05,199
so much big dre be safe

2368
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:06,719
thank you

2369
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:08,639
that's a great phone call right there

2370
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:12,400
and uh from fresno big dre

2371
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:14,840
yeah i i

2372
01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:16,639
yes

2373
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,320
i mean all of that

2374
01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:21,760
all of that is just a big yes and uh and

2375
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:25,360
donnie arcade uh he's a remarkable

2376
01:45:28,870 --> 01:45:26,639
musician

2377
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:28,880
and uh great vocalist and a great

2378
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:31,040
producer and writer

2379
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,520
but but his music is all about that man

2380
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:35,600
forbidden knowledge it's incredible

2381
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:37,040
let's uh go back to the phones hi you're

2382
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:43,430
you're live

2383
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:45,360
hey jimmy how you doing i'm doing good

2384
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:47,199
who's this

2385
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:50,159
this is bill in northern california bad

2386
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:51,440
radio bill

2387
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:54,320
[Laughter]

2388
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,239
how you doing bill thanks for the new uh

2389
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:58,320
tag line there yeah what's going what's

2390
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:01,119
going on tonight man

2391
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:04,239
well it's a fader night hey it's going

2392
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,199
great yes it is it's it's always great

2393
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:09,360
you know i uh it is always great you

2394
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:11,440
know when i'm uh

2395
01:46:16,550 --> 01:46:14,159
when i'm uh brewing coffee you know

2396
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:16,560
right before the show i'm just like it's

2397
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,080
fate or night

2398
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:20,719
let's go i'm just i'm i'm ready man i'm

2399
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:23,280
ready there's nothing like fade or night

2400
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:24,840
all right so what's on your

2401
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:28,400
mind well i have a a missing um time

2402
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:33,590
which is a kind of it's i never thought

2403
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:41,030
mystified over what happened

2404
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:43,119
um but here okay here it is it's about

2405
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:46,400
1995 living in northern california

2406
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:49,440
up in the hills above silicon valley

2407
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:57,350
oh bill you dropped out

2408
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,040
let you know bill

2409
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,320
i ended up going ahead and

2410
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:04,400
okay you need to start over you dropped

2411
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:07,520
out northern california

2412
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:10,400
okay yeah northern california i'm living

2413
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:13,840
in a house up above silicon valley

2414
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,800
and uh i go to the local bar for dinner

2415
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:18,400
it's 8

2416
01:47:21,830 --> 01:47:19,840
20.

2417
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:21,840
kitchen closes at

2418
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,560
somebody asks for a ride home

2419
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,040
and can you give me a ride home just 10

2420
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,040
minutes down the street you know some

2421
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:31,440
lady girl i never met her

2422
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:33,760
uh kind of strange looking very white

2423
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:35,280
skin white hair

2424
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,199
i go yeah sure

2425
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:39,920
i put a little bar napkin

2426
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:43,199
on top of my drink

2427
01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:47,270
i take her

2428
01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:51,520
drop her off she hops out she disappears

2429
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,760
and uh i hope this is coming through yes

2430
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:55,040
it is

2431
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,560
all right um so

2432
01:48:02,229 --> 01:48:00,400
i take her and we go down the road she

2433
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:02,239
goes oh pull over here

2434
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:04,239
i said here because there's no house

2435
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:06,080
there it's just a kind of a field and

2436
01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:07,440
some woods it's a wooded area it's a

2437
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,880
semi-rural area

2438
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,480
she hops out

2439
01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:12,400
runs over the bushes hops over and

2440
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:14,480
disappears down into the bushes

2441
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:15,760
and i thought

2442
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:17,520
that's pretty weird

2443
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:18,880
turn around

2444
01:48:25,830 --> 01:48:22,239
go back to the bar so i can order food

2445
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:28,390
it's like three hours plus

2446
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:29,600
and

2447
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:33,040
place had a different vibe like it was

2448
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:34,560
quiet it was later

2449
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,719
not so much noise from the dining room

2450
01:48:42,390 --> 01:48:40,880
i sit down at the bar i'm the only one i

2451
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:42,400
look at the digital clock i look at the

2452
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:43,920
red little led

2453
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,360
numbers there

2454
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:46,960
and i say hey um

2455
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:48,800
arnie

2456
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:49,679
uh

2457
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:53,590
what's with the clock

2458
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:56,320
i said i just left

2459
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,840
and i was going to order food and he

2460
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:59,760
goes oh no i go where's my beer he says

2461
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:00,880
you left

2462
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,480
going

2463
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:06,880
you know i didn't know what to think so

2464
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:08,480
he gives me another beer

2465
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:16,629
was that yeah i said he said kitchens

2466
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:19,679
closed so you didn't get food

2467
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:22,400
nope no food okay so

2468
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:25,440
what's the deal bill what happened

2469
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:28,480
i ordered a beer um and went home now

2470
01:49:31,510 --> 01:49:29,840
before

2471
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:31,520
i mean what do you think happened for

2472
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:38,310
i really don't know it's always been a

2473
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:41,520
it's just a memory hole um right leaving

2474
01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:42,800
taking this

2475
01:49:46,870 --> 01:49:45,440
lady girl down the road to uh a place

2476
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:46,880
where there is no house and just a kind

2477
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,960
of a a little bit of a field and she

2478
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:51,199
disappears into the over the hill into

2479
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:52,320
the bushes

2480
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:54,159
and uh and i drive back and suddenly

2481
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:57,199
it's three hours later um i don't feel

2482
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,480
any different

2483
01:50:02,070 --> 01:50:00,320
i wasn't hungry

2484
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:02,080
um

2485
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:04,400
no other parts of me felt strange right

2486
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:06,000
in case anybody's gonna start talking

2487
01:50:10,629 --> 01:50:07,679
about it in the chat there well that was

2488
01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,639
my next question actually yeah

2489
01:50:14,229 --> 01:50:12,960
i guess i heard it through the grapevine

2490
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:14,239
sure um

2491
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,520
so

2492
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:17,280
uh she did give me her business card

2493
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:18,159
though

2494
01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:21,599
and um her title had esquire at the end

2495
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:23,119
of it

2496
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,400
and it had a number

2497
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:27,119
um somewhere down in palo alto

2498
01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:29,520
i said you're a lawyer says yes i mean

2499
01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:31,520
she didn't look like a lawyer she looked

2500
01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:33,520
i don't know she just she was odd it was

2501
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,719
just odd

2502
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,750
wait wait story
wait wait wait wait did you call her